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Date:      Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:04:13 -0700
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        street@iname.com (Kevin Street), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Softupdates panics 
Message-ID:  <199809280104.SAA06330@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:31:08 -0000." <199809272131.OAA29999@usr05.primenet.com> 

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It was also posted on the list (several months ago)  to disable or refuse, 
async or noatime with softupdates.

	Amancio

> > Well, this certainly started an interesting series on noatime and SU.
> > If I could just review the score so far, we have:
> > 
> >   1 for "It's a Bad Thing" later retracted
> >   2 for "I've never heard this and I do it, you must be thinking of async"
> >   1 for "It's superstition, noatime and SU are fine"
> >   2 for "It likely triggers an access change that exposes a SU bug"
> >   1 for "It breaks your dependency graph into pieces"  
> > 	(perhaps I should count this as 2 for "Bad Thing")
> > 
> > I think we need a decision from the referee.  
> 
> Well, feel free to ask Kirk.  My claim that it's a bad thing came
> from a discussion of noatime and Soft Updates with Kirk and Julian
> in Julian's cube several months ago.
> 
> 
> 					Terry Lambert
> 					terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.
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