Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:10:42 -0800 From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 Message-ID: <3BE03EA2.63A5EFBF@mindspring.com> References: <XFMail.011029134349.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> <15326.50508.909158.688936@caddis.yogotech.com> <3BDED2DC.A04B6822@mindspring.com> <15326.55082.743110.502241@caddis.yogotech.com> <3BDFB624.D85F5352@mindspring.com> <15328.11148.994822.484027@caddis.yogotech.com>
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Nate Williams wrote: [ ... lot's of pro-Java stuff to counter my pro-C++ stuff ... ] > > Yeah, I know. I ended up with over 22,000 lines of code, with > > the Sun ones necessary for the support of the JavaMail API (I > > already said it was 1.2). > > Wow, that's alot of codes for such a simple API (IMO). No really; I commented my code incredibly well, and I also include my implementation of the fetchmail replacement that it was intended to support in the total line count. The resulting code needed to run in under an 16M footprint, and Kaffe was just too large at the time (and has only gotten larger) in its per instance cost. > > Needing to pay Sun half a million and per unit royalties isn't > > helping the language out any, either... > > That's changing (or so I've heard). Maybe I will retry it, when it becomes available for FreeBSD, or I'm once again hired to do Java code. > > That's also why the Almaden researchers > > chose to use Kaffe for their project, even though they had ready > > access to IBM's JVM, and Sun's JVM, through IBM's licensing of it. > > That happened later, as I understand things. The researchers didn't > have access to the code at the time, so momentum kept them using Kaffe, > despite all it's shortcomings. Not according to the Almaden guys, when they came to visit the conference room at Whistle (IBM, after the acquisition) in Foster City... unfortunately, I can't give you project details, since it was never announced (to my knowledge). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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