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Date:      Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:32:10 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
To:        "Bruce M. Walter" <walter@fortean.com>
Cc:        "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com>, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: AHC/WD driver status...
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.01.9901200925480.50707-100000@herring.nlsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.990119095402.20711A-100000@callisto.fortean.com>

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On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Bruce M. Walter wrote:

> First off, while I'm getting these messages directly in email and am
> a member of -alpha I *DON'T* get them via the list, although all other
> -lists are fine for me.  Odd...

Strange.  I see them in both places.  Have you asked majordomo whether
your subscription is valid?

> [...]
> 
> DR> It would be possible to hammer a pio-only port of wdc into the alpha
> DR> but I don't know when that can happen.  It has to be moved to the
> DR> new-bus framework soon anyway for Garret's i386 isa renovation
> DR> project.  We'll see.
> 
> I had surmised as much.  While I'm glad to see that's the thrust, I'd hate
> to see it be the only stone rolling.  If you take a step back and look at
> what the CAM stuff did for 3.0, it's great.  The problem for me (and alot
> of others) is that some fairly popular devices haven't been CAMified yet. 
> (aic and amd, but I'm not pointing fingers ;)
> 
> What I'm specifically getting at is my feeling that IDE support would let
> people take better advantage of their alpha machines to further the port
> and that even if it is analagous to the old SCSI layer vs. CAM it should
> be out there if it's not *too* much work.  It would definitely help me
> contribute to the port if there was a way to hang cheap IDE drives on my
> alpha for development purposes.  This is, of course, only a valid posit if
> Garrett's atapi work is fairly far from culmination. 
> 
> Not wanting to dish up work for others ;)  I'm going to try to take a look
> at what would be involved in hammering some sort of IDE support in, even
> if it's destined to go away soon.  I've got Linux and NetBSD on the box
> now and to be honest, between those two I'm ready to pull my hair out ;)
> 
> Any pointers?

The main issue in porting the existing wdc driver is untangling the
wdc/wd/atapi mess into the new device framework.  This would be a good way
of learning the new system (manpages exist and are not too out-of-date).
It really might be better to wait for a bit - I was planning to help
Garret with his new isa code on i386 and wdc is the main missing link
there too.

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Doug Rabson				Mail:  dfr@nlsystems.com
Nonlinear Systems Ltd.			Phone: +44 181 442 9037



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