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Date:      Sun, 23 Jun 2002 05:25:19 -0700
From:      "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com>
To:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        Ruben de Groot <fbsd-q@bzerk.org>
Subject:   Re: Spam problem on the list (Was: Re: URGENT)
Message-ID:  <20020623122518970.AAA709@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com>
In-Reply-To: <bulk.10765.20020623044619@hub.freebsd.org>

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> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:19:23 +0200
> From: Ruben de Groot <fbsd-q@bzerk.org>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 12:42:18AM -0700, Philip J. Koenig typed:

> > > From /etc/motd (what every newbee will read after the first
> > > successfull installation):
> > > 
> > > If you still have a question or problem, please take the output of
> > > `uname -a', along with any relevant error messages, and email it as a
> > > question to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list.
> > > 
> > > I consider this an excellent service provided by FreeBSD.
> >  
> > 
> > It may be an "excellent service" to some minority of FreeBSD users, but
> > we all thought having open SMTP relays was an "excellent service" too,
> > back in the innocent years before the explosion of spam.
> > 
> > Already at least one new user that I saw gave up after one day of 
> > being on this list because of all the junk on it, and I also know 
> > that some users in certain parts of the world consider it to be a 
> > major problem to receive large parcels of junk - in many cases this
> > costs them real money due to usage costs.


In the ultimate irony (or perhaps more accurately, in the ultimate 
obviousness), the message that immediately followed Ruben's in the 
last digest, and which took up fully 70% of the entire digest, was 
yet another spam, complete with a nice big file attachment.

I have to laugh when people use the excuse that hub.freebsd.org is a 
really busy server to argue against cracking down on spam and junk in 
the lists - when in the last couple of days that same junk has 
resulted in several extra gigabytes of useless trash being sent all 
around the world to every member of this list through 
hub.freebsd.org.



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Philip J. Koenig                                       pjklist@ekahuna.com
Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium


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