Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 07:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb> To: pechter@lakewood.com Cc: softweyr@xmission.com, freebsd-chat Subject: Re: FTC regulating use of registrations Message-ID: <199707231416.HAA19533@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <199707231237.IAA04426@i4got.lakewood.com> from "Bill Pechter" at Jul 23, 97 08:37:46 am
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moved to chat: (please note that no masculine or feminine pronouns or nouns are used ;) once upon a time, their existed the "nuclear family" in a land called america. the "nuclear family" consisted of one parent whose primary duty was to produce an income that would house and feed the family. the other parent's primary duty was to care for the children. kid sick at school? there was a parent available to care for the child. same was true of little league, parent-teacher conferences and PTA meetings. parents were involved in their churches, schools and community. because one parent had the time to do these things. then a blight came upon the land. both parents started to have a primary duty of producing income (there were a variety of reasons, of course, some good, some not so good) childcare became a secondary priority of both parents, and the primary duty of none. some tried out-sourcing parenting to low wage "nannies". (had to be low wage, else out-sourcing would have been an economic loss) churches, schools and communities lost the volunteer parents that had made the system work. liberal or conservative, many of us grew up in the 50's and 60's in that style of "nuclear family". that's is one element that is missing today, much to detriment of our children. its takes parents to raise a child it takes caring neighbors to watch out for the children when the parents are absent. at some point they inevitably will be. it takes family and friends that will let the children sleep over once in while, so the parents can enjoy their relationship without the delays in intrusions that children impose. (anyone with children that has not lost most of a week's sleep to flu, measles or another ailment? anyone with children that has not lost a romantic evening to an uncooperative child? anyone that does not occassionly long for the days before children, when the world was only two people, the sun always shone brightly upon the land?) jmb Bill Pechter wrote: > > > You're close. The real problem is the damned Clintons, er, liberals > > think they can raise our children "better" than we can, and want to > > control this (and all other) aspects of our lives. I'm truly sick and > > tired of this "It takes a village to raise a child" crap - it takes a > > Mommie and Daddy who care about, and CARE FOR the child. If the child > > is downloading pornography or talking to strangers on the net, the child > > needs to get his or her shell set to 'nologin', amongst other corrective > > behavior. > > > > > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > > http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com > > soapbox mode=ON > > Hey Wes, give us Liberals a break. I must be from the old school. > Shell set to nologin hell. What about a hand applied to the rear end. > It isn't a Liberal versus conservative thing. It's an "I'm too busy > with my pretentious lifestyle to parent" thing. > > There's actually something to this "It takes a village" stuff. When I was > a kid if any neighbors caught me doing anything that I shouldn't do > they would have called my folks and my folks would've nailed me. > > Now they just turn the other way or whine to the child welfare authorities. > > My mother was a teacher for 30 years in both nice, wealthy suburbs and > Bedford Stuyvesant and Brownsville New York (pretty tough inner city > areas). > > When she called the parents of a kid in NY -- both parents, who couldn't > afford to miss work showed up. In the suburbs, the mother of one kid > asked to have the parent teacher conference moved from Wednesday, because > "It's my tennis day." > > Gimme a break! > > soapbox mode=off > > We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming already in progress. > > Bill
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