Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:53:22 +1030 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au>, Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au> Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers Message-ID: <19981228195322.C12346@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <199812280749.SAA14318@cimlogic.com.au>; from John Birrell on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 06:49:31PM %2B1100 References: <199812280634.WAA08223@dingo.cdrom.com> <199812280749.SAA14318@cimlogic.com.au>
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On Monday, 28 December 1998 at 18:49:31 +1100, John Birrell wrote: > Mike Smith wrote: >>> I think the current problem is that we have people who think they have >>> carte-blanche to do anything they feel like. Now, in their defense they >>> often do things that no-one else is willing to do, so it cuts both ways. >> >> This is very true, and we need to find a form where these people can do >> the things that need to be done, but in a fashion that is deemed >> acceptable to the community. > > I think that people are getting carried away with emotion. Choosing to > draft a new set of rules is a knee-jerk reaction to something that > could have been better executed. If a "HEADS UP" message had been posted, > Greg would have been able to raise his issues with kld and users of the > Voxware drivers etc would have been able to voice their concerns. Having > notified people what was going to happen (and dealing with the unpleasant > "don't do that you f*ckwit" type emails), the end result would have been > much the same. All we need to remind people is that a change that is likely > to affect people needs a "HEADS UP" message. If this were a reaction to the lack of a ``heads up'' message, then yes, it would be inappropriate. I see this as an effort to look further than the current (and now largely resolved) problems and to say ``what do we do to ensure that things happen in a planned, coordinated manner''. This also means that there isn't any particular haste in the matter. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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