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Date:      Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:15:33 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net>
Cc:        Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu>, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: advocacy/31194: freebsd.org mailing lists - configuration problem?
Message-ID:  <20011010221533.A2592@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110101027190.3559-100000@pilchuck.reedmedia.net>; from reed@reedmedia.net on Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 10:54:42AM -0700
References:  <200110101204.f9AC4b530689@freefall.freebsd.org> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110101027190.3559-100000@pilchuck.reedmedia.net>

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 10:54:42AM -0700, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:

> > Also, leaving a message in limbo for several days is not exactly a
> > great idea when you know that you won't accept it ever.
>=20
> But I don't think this part of your comments were answered.
>=20
> It seems like the mail server should not return a temporary error.
> I am not sure why the 450 "Helo command rejected: Host not found" occured
> after the "RCPT TO".
>=20
> I believe it should occur directly at the HELO (OR EHLO) with a permanent
> error, i.e.:
>=20
>  helo pilchuck
>  500 <pilchuck>: Helo command rejected: Host not found

This would be incredibly annoying in cases of transient DNS failure.
For example, suppose FreeBSD's DNS server broke, so no hostnames could
be resolved.  None of the incoming mail would be re-sent, and it would
all be lost.

Kris

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