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Date:      Fri, 2 May 2003 16:56:51 -0500
From:      Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com>
To:        Tenebrae <tenebrae_bsd@niceboots.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: blackmail attempt?  Stable mailing list block?
Message-ID:  <20030502215651.GE27495@luke.immure.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030430123642.N62992@steeltoe.niceboots.com>
References:  <XFMail.20030430152922.ah54@httpsite.com> <20030430123642.N62992@steeltoe.niceboots.com>

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On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 01:08:55PM -0700, Tenebrae wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Andy Harrison wrote:
> 
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> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > On 30-Apr-2003, Scheidell@secnap.com wrote message "Re: blackmail attempt?
> > Stable mailing list block?"
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > you know their listing and delisting policies, besides, if you want 100% spam
> > > free, then the only FREE list to use is ours' blocked.secnap.net.  Again, do
> > > research before you use ANY blacklist!
> >
> > Anyone have any other recommended ones?  I'm also using bl.spamcop.net
> 
> Well, since they keep mistakenly blacklisting the ISP I work for because
> one of our customers forwards spam to his spamcop account, I have an
> incredibly low opinion of SpamCop.
> We're currently using several osirusoft blacklists:
> 
> inputs.osirusoft.com
> spamhaus.osirusoft.com
> dialups.osirusoft.com

I have a growing problem with osirusoft.com in that they appear to be
using the spews.org blacklist and are, consequently, blacklisting my
IP address. Apparently (from the spews.org data/evidence) file they
have blacklisted a large range (appx 3000) of IP addresses belonging
to swbel.net due to some accused spammer named Thomas Cowles. I have
been assigned a small block of static addresses from within the middle
of this block by SBC (my DSL provider). I have not been able to find a
way to get my addresses off of spews.org's blacklist. They don't seem
to make it very easy to do. Their recommendation is to change ISPs...a
painful and very undesireable prospect for me...having just switched to
SBC because my previous DSL provider got out of the DSL business.

As much as I hate spam, I'm beginning to feel that the whole notion of
using blacklists is a bad idea. The only blacklist that will stop all
spam is one that covers all addresses!

Bob

> 
> On my own server, I just manually add stuff.
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-- 
Bob Willcox          Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue.
bob@immure.com                    -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers
Austin, TX



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