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Date:      Fri, 29 May 2009 13:40:34 -0400
From:      APseudoUtopia <apseudoutopia@gmail.com>
To:        barry@pdc4u.com
Cc:        Michael Goodell <michael@pdc4u.com>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: difference between cvsup and portsnap
Message-ID:  <27ade5280905291040t227f5a12k2f47e7ee1c46ac69@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1243616981.26778.6.camel@bmac-desktop>
References:  <1243616981.26778.6.camel@bmac-desktop>

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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Barry McCormick <barry@pdc4u.com> wrote:
> Here at my work we use FreeBSD in production. =C2=A0We have the following
> debate and wish to know better the differences between cvsup(csup) and
> portsnap. =C2=A0One of my co-workers think that portsnap should NOT be us=
ed
> and only gets the latest and greatest port collection, no matter what
> version =C2=A0of FreeBSD is on the server. =C2=A0 For example, if you are=
 still
> running a 5.4 stable box in production and use any of the portsnap,
> portupgrade, etc utilities, you would pull the current version ports and
> NOT from teh directory of the 5.4 ports. I.E, risk breaking the
> production box. =C2=A0So you should not use portsnap ever except for dev
> boxes.
>
> I have always used portsnap to set up a new machine. =C2=A0I have never h=
ad
> it pull a wrong port that I knew of. =C2=A0I think it has to pay attentio=
n to
> the version of the ports it is pulling.
>
>
> which is right? =C2=A0This is a major issue with our production servers.
> Thanks
>

There is no "5.4" branch of the ports collection. If you're running
FreeBSD 2, you have the same exact ports collection as FreeBSD 8 does
(as long as you get an updated copy of the ports collection, of
course).

CSup gets the instant CVS revision of the ports collection.

Portsnap is a bit delayed because it fetches a tarball of the
collection (it doesn't check out from CVS). However, portsnap uses a
secure key to verify the integrity of the snapshot retrieved.

I personally use portsnap. It's also easier to script. I have this in
my crontab;
0       0       *       *       *       root    /usr/sbin/portsnap -I
cron update && /usr/sbin/pkg_version -I -L =3D -v

It updates the index files, not the actual ports collection itself.
This way, it wont interrupt any currently running compiles or
upgrades.



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