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Date:      Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:38:41 +0200
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, David Syphers <dsyphers@igpp.llnl.gov>
Subject:   Re: XFree86 
Message-ID:  <7718522FF10.AAA2052@smtp03.wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <199808251638.QAA00640@dingo.cdrom.com>
References:  <Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:52:26 MST."             <199808252152.OAA13477@beowulf.llnl.gov>

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At 06:38 PM 8/25/98 , Mike Smith wrote:

-snip-

>>  I ran xf86config and the basic vanilla
>>  video setup (640x480 16 color using X332VG16) because my NeoMagic 128
>>  isn't directly supported. This didn't work.  I then tried using
>>  XF86Setup through /stand/sysinstall, and while this seemed more
>>  promising (hey, it could display the very X-like thing it uses for
>>  setup), it got me no further. Every time I try to run X using
>>  "startx," I get the same error - 

Hmmm, NeoMagic eh? Have ye tried searching AltaVista for +neomagic +freebsd
? That got me a few sites with suggestions and a neomagic driver to include
within the X distribution... And I haven't bothered lately, but I got it up
at 640 x 480 stable and am increasing to 800 x 600 and 1024 x 768 as soon
as I find the differences between their X and mine in the config file.

>> "{blah blah blah}
>> (--) VGA16: There is no mode definition named "640x480"
>> 
>> Fatal server error:
>> No valid modes found..."
>
>Did you save the configuration file when you finished XF86Setup?  
>Unless you do this explicitly, you won't have a configuration.

Not nessecarily, I tweaked the config files according to the sites which
people suggested worked and got the same error...

>> *briefly stands on soapbox*
>> I am new to FreeBSD.  By this I do _not_ mean "I've only been a Sun
>> sysadmin for 10 years" new to FreeBSD.  I mean that I've come directly
>> from the world of Microsoft.  I've been playing around with FreeBSD off
>> and on for over a year now, and obviously haven't accomplished much.  I
>> really like FreeBSD and the atmosphere of it's users, but I'd just like
>> to cast one more vote for the idea that FreeBSD doesn't have adaquate
>> support for those of us with absolutely no experience with this stuff -
>> no experience with Sun, with SYSV, with Linux, or with DOS.
>
>That's fair enough; however we don't have a multi-billion dollar 
>organisation which can control the hardware market and pay people to do 
>the corner smoothing.

Please, I come from a one year experience using Solaris at university but
Amiga and Windows mostly. Whenever I don't see something correctly I often
join Undernet's #FreeBSD or type either lynx
/usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html or lynx /usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html
those two are little wonders...

Remember that the FreeBSD effort is one of volunteers and thus we don't
have the support power microsoft has (although I must say, the knowledge
base is always checked first, would that slightly be akin to GNATS?).

>One more point; XFree86 is a third-party product supplied by the 
>XFree86 Project.  If you are having problems with it, you should be 
>talking to them.  If we were Microsoft, we would be charging you $55 
>for this advice.

Heh, yer prolly right on the $$ thing... NeoMagic is an unsupported chipset
in the current XFree86, but ye can however try the altavista search I
suggested. Don't have the time to paste the URL's.

Regards,

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / Asmodai <asmodai(at)wxs.nl>
ICQ-UIN: 1564317 .:. Ninth Circle Enterprises
Network/Security Specialist

As far as ye can't tell, I am the Future in Computer Hell...

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