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Date:      Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:39:05 -0500 (EST)
From:      Kenneth W Cochran <kwc@TheWorld.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   XFree 4.3.0 / Xft font problems
Message-ID:  <200303181439.JAA5706913@shell.TheWorld.com>

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Hello -stable:

How can I get my "menu" fonts to not look decent?

I've experienced bad-looking fonts in Xft applications for
quite some time now & could use some help/advice fixing
it/them.

This started happening with Mozilla when it started
supporting Xft (1.2.x I think & now with 1.3.x
(Mozilla-devel)).
What happens is a tiny serifed menu-bar font.  Additionally,
the URL-lookup/specification window appears to use that same
tiny serif font.  Other fonts, well, "just don't look good."
Sorry, it's not easy to describe, but they're also small and
serifed & weren't before.  Under MS-Windows, Mozilla still
looks fine.

Other datapoints:  This also happens (well, happened, in
xfree 4.2.1) with Mozilla-devel-gtk2, xchat2 and
gaim-snapshot, presumably because they all use Xft as well,
perhaps via gtk2.

OS: 4.8-RC (RELENG_4) as of 2003/03/15.
XFree86: 4.3.0 built from source 2003/03/17, from a ports
cvsup immediately before and thorough cleanout (pkg_deleting
things and removing empty/unused directories in X, not
portupgrade) of /usr/X11R6/*, including its "parents" (i.e.
freetype2 & fontconfig) and "children" (everything that
depends on imake and/or XFree libraries).
Window manager: fvwm95 2.0.43a.
Screen size: 800x600.
Video card: Matrox G400 32mb.
Color depth: 24 bpp

"Regular" xchat 1.8.11 and gaim 0.59.9 look fine.
Mozilla built without Xft (-DWITHOUT_XFT) looks ok (menu bar
looks good, as with other apps) but not great (displayed
text looks "ok" but not very good).

This happened prior to XFree86 4.3.0 but now that the new XFree
has Xft more "integrated" the problem continues to worsen.

Additionally, as of XFree86 4.3.0, xclock seems to have
"lost" its minute-scale & the hands are very faint.  This is
on the fvwm95 "icon menu."  Up until xfree 4.3.0 this has
always looked fine.  Actually the minute scale is very tiny
(or maybe some other color?) and the hands are now some
different (lighter) color.

So far I can't find any help from the Handbook.
Documentation pointers are welcome.

Thanks,

-kc

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