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Date:      Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:24:48 -0400
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-smp@freebsd.org
Cc:        JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br>
Subject:   Re: Hyperthreading Issues (on Athlon64?)
Message-ID:  <200610120924.48482.jhb@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <200610102015.36589.joao@matik.com.br>
References:  <20061009114520.1355.qmail@web8608.mail.in.yahoo.com> <200610101543.29138.jhb@freebsd.org> <200610102015.36589.joao@matik.com.br>

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On Tuesday 10 October 2006 19:15, JoaoBR wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:43, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 October 2006 14:55, JoaoBR wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 10 October 2006 15:11, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > > > > My dmesg does not have the line about "Hyperthreading: 2 logical
> > > > > CPUs", though. =A0But I had been pretty sure the Athlon64 chips d=
idn't
> > > > > have any hyperthreading support. =A0Why is the HTT there?
> > >
> > > HTT is NOT hyperthreading, HT is and HT does not exist on AMD64
> >
> > Err, no. =A0The HTT there stands for HyperThreading Technology.
>=20
> you say it right: "stands for" in this case
>=20
> But I think it "is" the other way round, in terms of abreviation:
>=20
> HTT =3D Hyper Transport Technology
> HT =3D Hyper Threading (Technology)

I don't think this really bothers anyone.

> Even if this is certainly ok for whom knows it,  then an AMD X2 is defini=
tly=20
> not a hyperthreaded processor but has 2 cores as well as Intel's newer Co=
re=20
> Duo, so HTT for an AMD X2 would be wrong (my opinion again)

You didn't read anything I said earlier.  When dual-core came out, to make =
it
easier for OS's to detect it (probably Windows), AMD made a dual-core CPU
look just like an Intel CPU with 2 hyperthreads including using the CPUID
HT flag in cpuid that _Intel_ had reserved.  Even ports/misc/cpuid calls the
flag HT.  Sheesh.

=2D-=20
John Baldwin



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