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Date:      Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:39:05 -0700
From:      Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Adaptec AAC raid support 
Message-ID:  <200503191939.j2JJd57e016167@cvs.openbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:09 MST." <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> 

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> Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >>While I understand what you want Theo lets not remove the support for 
> >>stuff that currently works. I just spent $349 on a Adaptec RAID card 
> >>for my home server and if the support is removed I will be very upset. 
> >>The drive is written. Leave it alone. Let it be up to the end user to 
> >>pick which card they want to buy. You can not go back and undone 
> >>support for something you have listed!
> > 
> > 
> > Sorry.  Besides not having raid management, the driver is rather buggy.
> 
> You know, over the years that I worked for Adaptec and worked on the
> FreeBSD AAC driver, lots of other people contacted me for help with
> making their AAC driver work with their OS.  Strangely, not once did
> you or anyone else from OpenBSD contact me.

Nate perhaps did.  But why should we know that an NDA-singing FreeBSD
person is our contact, when over the years, even the people at Adaptec
did not tell us so?

> I would have been happy to
> help.  Heck, I might have even ported the management app (AACCLI, not
> a GUI, btw) for you like I did for FreeBSD.  Barring that, I would have
> been happy to show you how to do the linux compat shims for the driver
> so that you could use the Linux AACCLI on OpenBSD.  But no, you never
> contacted me.

We do not want a binary tool.  Neither our developers, nor our users.

We like free software.

> I think your whole rant here is bunk.  You're more concerned about petty
> bullying and showing everyone how important you are.  Your treatment of
> Doug is downright shameful, and I plan to call him and discuss it Monday
> morning.  If Adaptec puts out an SDK later this year then good for them,
> but I highly doubt that it will be as a result of your antics.  You
> could have had good AAC support years ago if you had just bothered to
> look around and use your resources, but instead you chose not to.
> Delete the driver and screw your users over some more.
> 
> Scott



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