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Date:      Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:10:48 -0600 (CST)
From:      Damon Anton Permezel <dap@damon.com>
To:        nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Motif question
Message-ID:  <199801070110.TAA09855@damon.com>
In-Reply-To: <199801070046.RAA28404@mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 6, 98 05:46:54 pm"

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"Nate Williams sez: "
> > The jdk115 port uses lesstif-0.81.
> 
> *yuck*

Why?  What are the (free) alternatives?  Although I would rather get back
to actually trying to write some Java code, rather than debugging AWT/Lesstif
interactions, I might be tempted to argue that we should be working towards
either making lesstif better, or AWT Motif-independent.

> 
> > I am attempting to resolve some issues pertaining to running some AOL
> > messenger s/w which comes as a Java application.
> > 
> > (BTW: running this with anything but mwm causes the X-server to rapidly bloat
> >  until all 500meg of swap space is consumed!)
> 
> The AOL software, or the JDK in general?  We've have really good luck
> with your last binary release, although lots of AWT stuff is broken, and
> Swing components don't work at all.

I care not for the AOL s/w, except for the fact that it causes immediate
X-server death unless one uses mwm or afterstep, and that it also causes
SEGV or ABRT traps, and I'd like to remove as many bugs as possible from the
next beta of the JDK port.

> 
> Is there any chance of the diffs being released anytime soon, so that
> those of us with Motif can create their own binary releases w/out these
> annoying bugs?  (Replacing the LessTif shlib with the Motif version
> causes SEGV's, which is what I believe the rest of the article is
> about.)

Sure.  The next beta (where I finally lay to rest the busy-wait-poll problem
for the I/O) is ready, except I wanted to solve the SEGV problems, and some
other issues I've seen when running some of the demo apps.
Being somewhat paranoid, I like to test stuff, from several Os-levels, etc.
My current plan is to fix all outstanding bugs (or accept defeat in 1 more day),
publish the next binary, try to figure out how to generate diffs, and
publish them.

The main issue is time, I guess, and the "cleanup source and figure out how
to generate diffs" task just keeps getting lower priority.

I just got summoned to go grocery shopping, but "wrestling with the motif
issues" is actually becoming more unpleasant than the gen diffs task, and
since I am getting more and more requests, I suspect that something will
pop out before this time tomorrow.

OK, thats a commitment.

Cheers,
Damon.



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