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Date:      Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:41:00 +0000
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7
Message-ID:  <980725024100.ZM737@darkstar.connect.com>
In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> "Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7" (Jul 25, 11:18am)
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On Jul 25, 11:18am, Greg Lehey wrote:
> Subject: Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7
> On Friday, 24 July 1998 at 16:34:18 -0600, Brett Glass wrote:
> > At 09:37 AM 7/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> >> Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As I previously announced, there were some problems encountered with
> >>> sysinstall in the 11th hour during our CDROM media testing which I
> >>> fixed, rolled an updated boot.flp for, and uploaded to the master FTP
> >>> site.
> >>>
> >>> I also fixed a problem I introduced at the last minute via a fumbled
> >>> file copy which caused the XF86Setup utility to be replaced by the
> >>> Japanese version (heh).  In addition to this, I've just received
> >>> updated distribution tarballs from The XFree86 Project which merge all
> >>> of the 3.3.2.3 security updates directly into the "standard" tarballs
> >>> rather than having an extra update file (X3323upd.tgz) which needed to
> >>> be applied by hand.  In other words, it's totally plug-and-play now.
> >>> Just install XFree86 as you normally would to get the latest security
> >>> fixes and the correct setup utility for your language.  Since the
> >>> X332*upd.tgz files are now obsolete, they have also been removed.
> >>>
> >>> My apologies to those who were momentarily inconvenienced by this, but
> >>> c'mon, this is free software and a 24 hour turnaround time is pretty
> >>> good in any part of this industry! :-)
> >>
> >> 24-hour turnaround is incredible in this industry; most companies won't
> >> promise anything in 24 hours, and the few who do mostly promise just to
> >> have somebody *look at it* within 24 hours.
> >>
> >> Three cheers for Jordan, the release team, the core team, and everyone
> >> else associated with FreeBSD.  I know each and every one of you are
> >> concentrating on keeping Doug White's workload as low as possible.  ;^)
> >
> > Agree wholeheartedly; this shows both dedication and professionalism
> > on the part of Jordan and the rest of the team.
> >
> > Of course, since I'm upgrading production servers, what I'm REALLY
> > looking for is a "golden" release -- that is, a version that for
> > some reason (fate, luck, magic, sweat) came out more trouble-free
> > and stable than most after the last minute patches were applied.
> >  I'm hoping 2.2.7 will be it, as it is unclear whether there will
> > be a 2.2.8 and I can't afford to gamble on -current on these
> > machines.

While agreeing with most of the above, my vote must be with Greg.  We did a
beta release with 2.2.6, and the release was a very solid one.  A side benefit
was the silence of the idiots.

Frank

>
> While I agree with this sentiment, I think we should bear in mind that
> it could have been better.  This time, for some reason, there were a
> lot of dissenting voices in the mailing lists.  Didn't we use to do a
> Beta release?  If Jordan had released 2.2.7 beta on Monday (or even
> the Wednesday before) and let people download it, within a week the
> rough edges would have been knocked off, there would have been less
> stress, and less idiots sending out messages saying that FreeBSD 2.2.7
> was a load of shit.
>
> Greg
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