Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:04:59 -0500 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" <achornback@worldnet.att.net> To: "Paul Robinson" <paul@akita.co.uk>, "Nils Holland" <nils@tisys.org> Cc: <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>, <advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: NatWest? no thanks Message-ID: <00d101c162ee$f53ae260$6600000a@columbia> In-Reply-To: <20011101095903.B43740@jake.akitanet.co.uk>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Paul Robinson > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:59 AM > To: Nils Holland > Cc: Walter C. Pelissero; Brett Glass; chat@FreeBSD.ORG; > advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: NatWest? no thanks > > OK, this one got me fired up, and I suspect this will turn into a flamewar > if we're not careful - if you want to tell me I'm a cretin or send me rude > messages, please do so off-list. For the record I'm a 'nix user and > developer and have been for about 7 years now. I'm writing this in mutt > whilst ssh'ed into a FBSD box from my FBSD laptop. I spend most of my > professional life these days writing the tricky stuff on large, > complicated, > true full-on application-style websites. No, I don't do the HTML, I do the > stuff that makes things work. Please, read on if you want to know why I > think IE-only compatability is a good thing for the user. [tirade snipped for brevity] Paul, I've got one simple question for you. You develop on and for Unix platforms, as it says above. Unix platforms have a generally accepted set of standards that those playing the game play by. Now, when it comes to Java, Javascript and all of that hooey (It's a Southern term), who's version do you use? Who produces REAL Java? Sun, the originators of the standard... or Microsoft, the ones that took the standard and perverted it for their own political uses? You raise some interesting issues, but I think that it's quite comical for sites to require MSIE for doing Java work, etc. when Microsoft isn't even producing a Java development package anymore. For those that don't know, Microsoft had to sell J++ and the related items to Rational Software in order to satisfy the judge's ruling in their lawsuit against Sun. Nothing I can say or do is going to change how you go about your business. But, I'll say this much, when you start producing websites that REQUIRE that God-awful Microsoft Passport thing, expect much more of an uproar. --- Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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