Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:36:14 -0700 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen), Mike Jeays <mj001@rogers.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104193110.0285a570@localhost> In-Reply-To: <qgznqgo06v.nqg@localhost.localdomain> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104145840.02925620@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <200212312041.gBVKfr183480@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104112015.026a5530@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104145840.02925620@localhost>
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At 06:27 PM 1/4/2003, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: >> "Crack?" > >As in "wise-crack", not the kind you're thinking of. I couldn't think of any meaning of "crack" that applied. >> The Trojan Horse looked like a gift too. > >And if the giftees knew where to find and kill the bad guys, it >would have been a great gift -- the children could play in it. Well, we know where to find the bad in GPLed code: in the license. Unfortunately, the only legal way to un-GNU it is to re-implement from scratch or do clean room reverse engineering. We can't take the law into our own hands and kill the bad guys. (Too messy. ;-) >> In other words, "Slavery is freedom?" This sounds a bit like RMS's >> rhetoric. ;-) > >In other words, yeh, but my words were "so dependent", not "a slave". It's effectively servitude, in that by using the code FreeBSD is doing Stallman's bidding and promoting his agenda. >> When someone engages in a deceptive trade practice, one should not blame >> the consumers but rather the perpetrator. > >As I indicated, I blame each for different reasons. That's a more reasonable attitude. >But I try not to >blame someone soley for publishing software with a more restrictive >license than I'd prefer, The GPL is more than "restrictive." It's viral, discriminatory, and aimed right at programmers' livelihoods. >> If you talk to people who use >> Linux and GPLed software, you'll find that 99% of them have no idea >> whatsoever about the agenda they're promoting. > >I talk to Linux people at a LUG every month; most just don't care, >regardless of whether they know about it. That's true. >And sadly, most DEVELOPERS >soon catch on to and agree with the agenda, buying the over- >simplification that it's only fair that "if I can't use your source, >you can't use mine", as if all chunks of source are of equal value. And as if ALL of yours is worth one line of GPLed code. >Old Germans haven't found everyone as forgiving as you. But I get your >point. It's hard to blame individuals for choosing their own short- >term interests, even if it'll cost their group (and others) dearly in >the long run. It's one of the key strategies of malevolent people -- and always has been -- to play people's perceived short term interests off against their long term ones. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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