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Date:      Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:34:35 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        rsnow@legend.txdirect.net (Rob Snow)
Cc:        davidg@Root.COM, jbeukema@hk.super.net, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: packet forwarding
Message-ID:  <199506280804.RAA20077@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.950629020541.408A-100000@oasis> from "Rob Snow" at Jun 29, 95 02:14:40 am

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Rob Snow stands accused of saying:
> >    Perhaps I'm missing something, but why would your ISP send packets for
> > 10.x.x.x back to you? The "10" net is supposed to be local-only.
> 
> #define PPP	ppp machine with lp0 to LOST and tun0 to ISP
> 		starts at 204.57.120.200 and gets reassigned to 
> 		204.57.120.[50-100].  ifconfig lp0 inet PPP LOST
> 
> #define LOST	204.57.120.201 with ifconfig lp0 inet LOST PPP
> 
> #define ISP	204.57.120.3

Ok; I'll rephrase the question: why would your ISP send packets back
to you for any host other than the one that's connected?  Have you arranged
with them for a route to be added every time you get a new IP address 
assigned?

> LOST can NEVER ping/rlogin to ISP.

How about you look at your modem lights and tell us whether the ping
packets are going out, and whether they come back.

I have an interesting story for you :

genesis:~>traceroute 204.57.120.201
traceroute to 204.57.120.201 (204.57.120.201), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  thebarton.net.adelaide.edu.au (129.127.96.87)  7.340 ms  3.544 ms  3.457 ms
 2  pancho.adelaide.edu.au (129.127.92.86)  4.993 ms  3.555 ms  4.818 ms
 3  sa.gw.au (129.127.12.1)  4.942 ms  4.328 ms  3.945 ms
 4  national-sa.gw.au (139.130.40.1)  20.775 ms  23.580 ms  20.046 ms
 5  usa.gw.au (139.130.240.2)  23.285 ms  25.028 ms  19.323 ms
 6  border4-hssi1-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.35.5)  288.579 ms  203.096 ms
198.989 ms
 7  core-fddi-1.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.3.161)  205.590 ms  201.714 ms  207
.041 ms
 8  core-hssi-2.LosAngeles.mci.net (204.70.1.41)  213.136 ms  325.821 ms  413.63
2 ms
 9  core-hssi-2.Houston.mci.net (204.70.1.33)  236.785 ms  249.729 ms  266.177 m
s
10  border4-fddi0-0.Houston.mci.net (204.70.3.99)  238.812 ms  247.084 ms  240.2
73 ms
11  kblcom.Houston.mci.net (204.70.39.58)  254.885 ms  248.636 ms  240.165 ms
12  s12-cust.fibrcom.net (204.57.64.10)  255.286 ms  256.203 ms  255.440 ms
13  * s12-cust.fibrcom.net (204.57.64.10)  547.994 ms !H  253.274 ms !H

genesis:~>traceroute 204.57.120.3
traceroute to 204.57.120.3 (204.57.120.3), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  thebarton.net.adelaide.edu.au (129.127.96.87)  7.002 ms  3.493 ms  4.056 ms
 2  pancho.adelaide.edu.au (129.127.92.86)  5.212 ms  6.165 ms  4.286 ms
 3  sa.gw.au (129.127.12.1)  4.235 ms  4.218 ms  4.806 ms
 4  national-sa.gw.au (139.130.40.1)  42.745 ms  26.573 ms  28.499 ms
 5  usa.gw.au (139.130.240.2)  19.643 ms  18.720 ms  19.601 ms
 6  border4-hssi1-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.35.5)  210.667 ms  203.208 ms
205.689 ms
 7  core-fddi-1.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.3.161)  219.924 ms  207.232 ms  208
.312 ms
 8  * core-hssi-2.LosAngeles.mci.net (204.70.1.41)  214.211 ms  221.210 ms
 9  core-hssi-2.Houston.mci.net (204.70.1.33)  239.825 ms  252.157 ms  251.542 m
s
10  border4-fddi0-0.Houston.mci.net (204.70.3.99)  237.784 ms  235.791 ms  236.0
65 ms
11  kblcom.Houston.mci.net (204.70.39.58)  258.455 ms  258.609 ms  250.428 ms
12  s12-cust.fibrcom.net (204.57.64.10)  257.253 ms  291.199 ms  255.267 ms
13  sat-rot1.txdirect.net (204.57.120.3)  251.562 ms  312.534 ms  256.176 ms

Now, if you can read these, it tells us that your ISP isn't propagating a
route to your system, and in fact, they don't even have a route to that
half of their class C.

> Rob Snow

Blame where blame is due.

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