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Date:      Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:33:35 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Yar Tikhiy <yar@comp.chem.msu.su>
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Matteo Riondato <matteo@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults periodic.conf
Message-ID:  <20060131010335.GQ91655@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060131005711.GB16211@comp.chem.msu.su>
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On Tuesday, 31 January 2006 at  3:57:11 +0300, Yar Tikhiy wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:58:19PM +0000, Robert Watson wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>> On Monday, 30 January 2006 at 15:35:25 +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>>>> M>   Make df output in periodic mail human readable
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> *sigh*
>>>
>>> Not everybody is human.
>>
>> My daily script parsers certainly aren't.  I quite like being able to pull
>> in a mailbox of old daily output and plot disk space use over time.  The
>> problem with df -h is that as the numbers get bigger, the granularity
>> becomes very, very coarse.  I.e., you can only see changes at 1GB
>> granularity for big disks, so you can't actually usefully track in any
>> detail daily usage rates.
>
> I think that if the war of computers against humans ever begins,
> it will break out from an event like this commit.  And then some
> geek folks will certainly come down on the side of computers.  The
> granularity of "df -h" is too coarse even to, ahem, some readers
> of the list, keep alone the scripts.  Quite naturally, they dread
> being treated as inadequately human some day soon.
>
> To help keep peace, let's support the campaign against denying
> computers their right to get complete and uncensored information
> in plain text or, under very special conditions, XML :-)

It's actually heartening to see so many people agreeing with me on
this one; I wasn't expecting it.

We should recognize that neither way is a solution.  The solution
would be to make this kind of thing easily configurable.  That would
mean something like a knob DFFLAGS in /etc/defaults/rc.conf.  I'd
argue (of course) for it to be -k by default (though I'd personally
change it to -m).

Greg
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