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Date:      Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:01:17 -0400
From:      Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>
To:        "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Fw: Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <20020909220117.5343f09b.yid@softhome.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020906124405.V94577-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>
References:  <20020905202034.77ef17b3.yid@softhome.net> <20020906124405.V94577-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>

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On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
"Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> wrote:

> > > I think you are operating on a Thomistic notion of "faith".  Faith
> > > does not take over where reason leaves off.  Faith is the
> > > foundation of reason.  Reasoning would not even be possible
> > > without faith.  I argue that only *Christian* faith can account
> > > for reason, but here I suppose we disagree.
> >
> > Until you prove that through your faith you can reason better than
> > the rest of us, a thesis very much in doubt, this statement is
> > unsupportable.
> 
> Well, please go back and read some of my posts to Terry and Dave. 

ROFL!

> For example, the naturalist cannot account for human reason, since
> according to a naturalist, everything that happens in the human brain
> is just electro-chemical responses in the brain which have nothing to
> do with "truth", "error", "right reason", etc.  If a person is a

A computer programmer cannot account for computer programms, because
they are composed of moving electrons that have nothing to do with:
printf ("Hello world.\n");

> naturalist, he has no reason to be a naturalist.  He must also say
> that other people's beliefs in God are also only the result of
> electro-chemical responses in the brain.  He could never know whether
> or not he was right, since every attempt to reason his way to the
> truth is just more electro-chemical responses in the brain, and hence,
> the results of *these* reactions are also suspect.

If this is an example of your "superior xtian reason", I'll have none of
it. ;-)

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