Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:34:21 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Homepage, take two. Message-ID: <19991205133421.G2126@daemon.ninth-circle.org> In-Reply-To: <19991205125437.J76366@bitbox.follo.net>; from eivind@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Dec 05, 1999 at 12:54:37PM %2B0100 References: <19991201223902.E89541@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991205125437.J76366@bitbox.follo.net>
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-On [19991205 13:00], Eivind Eklund (eivind@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: >On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 10:39:02PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: [snip refs page] >As I said on IRC: We should probably have descriptions for each URL. >I believe one URL with a description will probably have larger impact >than 10 URLs without descriptions. Already added some, plus some new links with descriptions. I am getting there, albeit slowly, but steadily. =) >> I already added two goals which need some review. > >I'm taking the freedom of quoting them here: My webpages are BSDL'd. ;) >* To design a clear, consistent and good clustering system or > foundation to make such a system possible on the three BSD's > present. > >I think this is too 'wishy-washy'. It has very little punch. I'll >give a rephrase below. Like I said, they needed review. I wrote them in less than one minute. >* To provide a working set of patches (or an entire source tree), > which can be applied to certain versions of the BSD code bases > released or in development, to create a working cluster node. > >... and I think this isn't a goal as a such, it is just something we >will do. *nod* An action or result flowing from an idea/goal. >Rephrase of the first listed goal above, with extensions: >1. Turn BSD into a 'hot' clustering environment. > > This is our primary goal. In order to make this happen, we will > need to set a number of other goals, and reach for those. Below > are suggestions for subgoals, which again will need to be refined > to actually reach tasks to do. > >1. Create a focus for BSD clustering discussion cluster@freebsd.org list will be the focus of that discussion I gather? >2. Make it easy to set up BSD based clusters. > >3. Make it common to set up BSD based clusters. > >4. Make it natural to think of BSD when you want to set up a cluster. > >5. Make it natural to think of BSD when you want to do research on > clusters. > >6. Make clusters a natural part of the 'toolchest' for BSD users. > >7. Make clusters a part of the focus of the BSD developers. Some things come to mind, I agree on the main, overall goal and with the (now) 7 goals emerging from that main goal to prepare the task at hand into sizeable chunks to realise. >I'll get back to more refined tasks shortly. Please do. I stress that documentation should be a goal in itself. Or at least a subgoal of the above goals. [snip] >We need to have enough text that people >1) Understand what clusters are >2) Understand what high availability is (at least to a degree) >3) Understand why they would want clusters >4) Understand where there are 'leverage points' where they can > contribute to make a maximal difference >5) Understand why the route chosen forward (which we need to choose, > at least to a degree) has been chosen I think I can manage some initial text on 1 and 2, drawing from the texts already online. Other people's opinions/ideas? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>; Without you, I am nothing... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message
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