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Date:      Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:17:42 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        ponds!rivers@dg-rtp.dg.com (Thomas David Rivers)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, lakes!rivers@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recap of sio weirdness, where to go from here...
Message-ID:  <199608141247.WAA02817@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199608141146.HAA04041@lakes> from "Thomas David Rivers" at Aug 14, 96 07:46:55 am

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Thomas David Rivers stands accused of saying:
> 
> Mike Smith has made several good points - notably that most "modern"
> 16550s, are, in fact, not 16550s - but some clone chip.  That could
> be the situation in my P75 laptop (actually, kinda likely since it
> is a laptop...)  However, the 386 and 486 I have which demonstrate
> the problem have *actual* 16550s in them.  I know because I replaced
> the 8250s in the serial cards myself...

Unless these parts are marked "PC16550DN" they are _not_ *actual*
16550's.  They may be a clone produced by another manufacturer, but as
has also been discussed here at great length (Where's Frank D. these
days?), this is _no_ guarantee that the part doesn't do something 
funny.

Have you tried using 'lptest' and a loopback cable to ascertain whether
these FIFO overflows are real or imaginary?

> [My point being that while it's certainly possible I have faulty hardware
> on one machine; the likelyhood of that decreases when you consider that
> I can reproduce this symptom on two other, disparit, machines...]

If you installed the same part in these machines, then the problem may well
still be hardware-related.  Please note that I am not trying to suggest
that the fix to your solution cannot possibly lie with a change to the 
sio driver, merely that there are a plethora of systems out there using
the sio driver that do _not_ exhibit the problem that you are seeing.

> 	- Dave Rivers -

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