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Date:      Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:47:52 -0700
From:      "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        "Kenneth Mays" <kmays2000@hotmail.com>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 
Message-ID:  <200206071447.g57ElqBZ001996@intruder.bmah.org>
In-Reply-To: <LAW2-F136kUuTwDRzXI00005774@hotmail.com> 
References:  <LAW2-F136kUuTwDRzXI00005774@hotmail.com>

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If memory serves me right, "Kenneth Mays" wrote:

> My only request is that we get to test these applications and
> have some of them become the default applications in the base system:

Hi Ken--

Thanks for the feedback, but it's way too late to be suggesting feature
improvements for 4.6-RELEASE.  The time to make suggestions like this is
at the start of the release cycle, not the end.  Please see the schedule
for 4.6-RELEASE:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html

The releases are not about making newer versions of programs available
for testing.  They're about making available the best-tested, most
dependable code we're able to provide, within engineering and logistical
constraints.  If you want to test new stuff *and* you can deal with
possible breakage, try -STABLE or -CURRENT.

That being said, many of the programs you've listed are already in the
ports collection that will ship with 4.6-RELEASE.  They might not be
identical to what might eventually show up in the base system (due to
some changes, bugfixes, etc. that get made by our developers when
integrating them).

> 1. NTP 4.1.1a

/usr/ports/net/ntp

> 2. Sendmail 8.12.4

Very recent...I didn't even know this existed until a couple days back.
It was added to the ports collection after the ports freeze.

> 3. tar 1.13.25 or whatever is the most updated 'stable' version.

/usr/ports/archivers/gtar

> 4. GCC 2.95.3 & 3.1 selections in GUI (whatever is the most reliable)

/usr/ports/lang/gcc295
/usr/ports/lang/gcc31

> 5. OpenSSH 3.2.3 and OpenSSL 0.9.6c/d

That OpenSSH release is pretty recent.  I don't think it made the ports 
freeze either.

/usr/ports/security/openssl

> 6. Samba 2.2.4

Not in the base system.

/usr/ports/net/samba

> 7. Nvidia recent drivers (test these with Xfree86 4.2.x) on Quadro/geforce 
> boards

Don't know about these.  If we ship them, it'd be in ports, not the 
base system.

> I just notice that this was some of the current issues we are having besides 
> the basic/advanced base system testing. Some of this was already done but 
> listed here for reference.
> 
> I know FreeBSD isn't intended to be a Solaris 9 for the free world (or is 
> it?!?) and I know we all have problems with hardware issues (the most 
> common). Is there an easier way to put all our issues together in a simple 
> doc to compile the information needed to make improvements for the 4.6 
> release?!?

I'm sorry, I don't understand these two paragraphs.

Hope this helps,

Bruce.



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