Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 01:14:08 GMT From: Jamie Jones <jamie@bishopston.net> To: achornback@worldnet.att.net, paul@akita.co.uk Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, nils@tisys.org Subject: Re: NatWest? no thanks Message-ID: <200111020114.BAA28852@bishopston.net> In-Reply-To: <20011101164226.B47017@jake.akitanet.co.uk>
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Paul wrote: [ 8< ] > That is really a client issue - if the client says that the site will be > accessed from MS platforms, and for whatever reason they want to make sure > that everything is as compatible as possible out of the box, you have to > look to using MS technology. In the case of websites, anybody with a copy of > analog looking after a busy mainstream site can see that MS IE is the > predominant browser, and as such is the benchmark 'standard' browser you put > the most effort into developing the site for. [ 8< ] Isn't it the responsibility of the designer to explain that all browsers should work, when the code is clean ? Not directed personally at you, but I've seen loads of sites that "only" work in IE not because of extra "MS features" but simply because their HTML etc. is wrong. Often this is due to badly designed "HTML editors", and although I'm not knocking people with no technical knowledge using them to put up a web page, I feel that any acceptance of this by people who should know better will only allow the situation to get worse.. If people realised their HTML editor was not producing valid results for some people, it may persuade them to use another editor, or for the company concerned to clean up their editor somewhat. None of this requires the "man in the street" to get technically savvy, but maybe we can gently remove some of his ignorance. Anyway, as you no doubt know, Microsoft recently blocked many browsers from its MSN portal.. There was a big fuss made, and Microsoft backed down, so maybe the users of non-IE have a bigger voice than you think ? As CNET reports: | Despite Microsoft critics' suspicion about the reason behind the | browser lockout--and its timing--the incident had an unintended | consequence: It became a selling point for competing browsers. | The dispute made headlines in newspapers around the world and was | covered by Web sites in multiple languages with links to competing | browsers, resulting in a torrent of new customers for the smaller | companies. Full report here: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7739670.html?tag=tp_pr Regards, Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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