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Date:      Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:59:49 +0100
From:      Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Some "security" questions.
Message-ID:  <xzp65rrmemi.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0302101752500.49102-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> (Julian Elischer's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:03:07 -0800 (PST)")
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0302101752500.49102-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>

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Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> writes:
> 1/ Command logging. We're thinking that a hacked version of the shell
> that logs commands may do what they want, but personally I
> think that if you are going to log things then you really want to
> PROPERLY do it, and log the EXEC commands along with the arguments.
> (sadmin et al. doesn't give arguments, and neither does ktrace)

"Yes, we can do that" in the sense that it can be implemented if
there's a demand for it, but I don't think any existing code can do
it.

> 2/ they want to disable a login if it fails 'n' sequential logins
> anywhere in the system. i.e. 2 on one machine followed by another on
> another machine.

"Yes we can do that" with a smart PAM module.

> I can immagine using pam_radius, and hacking a radius server 
> to track login fails.. Anyone have any better ideas?
> Maybe a pam_module specially written? (hmmmm)

PAM has a mechanism which allows for arbitrary named objects to be
stored for the duration of a PAM transaction, along with a destructor
which is called when the object is released (either explicitly or when
the transaction ends).  You could write a PAM module which stores an
object in the authenticate phase, then modifies its contents in the
setcred phase (which only occurs if authentication was successful).
The destructor would register success or failure in a database
depending on whether the object was modified before release.  The
exact nature of that database is not important.

DES
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Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org

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