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Date:      Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:39:33 -0800
From:      Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
To:        bf1783@gmail.com
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>
Subject:   Re: 7+ days of dogfood
Message-ID:  <20130213033933.GA89757@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 02:15:08AM +0000, b.f. wrote:
> On 2/13/13, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:18:29AM +0000, b.f. wrote:
> >> ># cat /etc/make.conf|grep FFLAGS
> >> >FFLAGS = -O2 -pipe -march=native -mtune=native
> >>
> >> Please do _not_ assign flags unconditionally in make.conf.
> >
> > FFLAGS is for compiling Fortran.  I'm one of the people who
> > has spent years working/patching gfortran.  I think I might
> > have a better understanding of what options to use with
> > gfortran than most people.
> >
> 
> I know you have, but you are giving advice that is liable to be abused
> by those who are less experienced.  The flags you are adding are not
> the problem -- it's the way that you are adding them -- specifically,
> the assignment in the first line of your snippet, if it's applied
> unconditionally.  You should either be appending all of them, or
> assigning them conditionally, so that they are sure to be assigned
> only once, or -- preferably -- using another makefile that can't be
> re-read multiple times during a build (ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> automatically includes several makefiles that can be used for this
> purpose, if you are building a port). You have been lucky not to trip
> over this: every couple of months for the last several years I have
> had to debug errors reported by users that arise from this problem. It
> is more common with CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS but it can happen with FFLAGS,
> too.

Try 'find /usr/ports -name Makefile -maxdepth 3 | xargs grep FFLAGS'
Then go read about the options chosen by the various port maintainers.
I specifically set FFLAGS to avoid the questionable options set in 
the ports.  If -malign-double appears in a port, it should probably
be marked as broken.  If a port uses -fdefault-real-8, it should probably
be marked as broken.  If a port uses -ffast-math, it may have issues that
are extremely difficult to debug. 

-- 
steve



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