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Date:      Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:25:56 -0800
From:      "Maksim Yevmenkin" <maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com>
To:        "Scott Long" <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, cokane@cokane.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des@des.no>, Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>, Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbdmux kbdmux.c
Message-ID:  <bb4a86c70603010925v694676faw545ddfed2668ef27@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4405CC23.20403@samsco.org>
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On 3/1/06, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
> Eric Anderson wrote:
> > Ceri Davies wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:39:36AM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Coleman Kane wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 2/28/06, *Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav* <des@des.no <mailto:des@des.no>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>    "Maksim Yevmenkin" <maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com
> >>>>    <mailto:maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com>> writes:
> >>>>     > we should make a decision which scancodes keyboard drivers
> >>>> should be
> >>>>     > returning and change kbdmux(4), syscons(4) etc. to support it.
> >>>>     >
> >>>>     > until then, i'm afraid, sun rs232 and powerpc adb keyboard
> >>>> drivers
> >>>>     > will have to translate their own scancodes into at scancodes
> >>>> (just
> >>>>     > like ukbd(4) does).
> >>>>
> >>>>    Considering that ukbd(4) is the only kbd driver that runs on all
> >>>>    platforms, it might make sense to have all other drivers translat=
e
> >>>>    their scancodes to ukbd(4) scancodes and use that in kbdmux(4) an=
d
> >>>>    syscons(4).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree,  especially since atkbdc's are rapidly being replaced by
> >>>> USB on the platforms they were made for.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Long term, yes, but what is the risk/benefit of doing this for 6.1?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> If it doesn't work, we look like bloody idiots.  6.2 isn't that far
> >> away, I'd think that anybody could manage waiting for it a little more
> >> (especially if it goes into RELENG_6 just after the 6.1 branch).
> >>
> >> The above not to be taken as a comment on the change, on which I am no=
t
> >> informed enough to hold an opinion.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Can we have it all set, built in to GENERIC, but the device hint set to
> > disabled?  Lots of systems, Dell PowerEdge and similar, come with a
> > remote access card, which uses a USB tie in.  The only way I've found t=
o
> > make the console keyboard work after initial install, is to boot single
> > user, hack /etc/devd.conf, and reboot, which is really ugly.  Many
> > FreeBSD users get stuck with this, so it would be very nice to have a
> > quick way to enable the kbdmux at loader time for 6.1, but if it goes i=
n
> > right after, I'm not going to cry. :)
> >
> > Thanks again Maksim for all the work on this!
>
> I'd like to turn this on for the next BETA build, get feedback, then
> decide whether or not to leave it enabled for the final 6.1 release.
> Maksim, is that OK with you?

yes, it should be fine. i still need to add/test hints support in
kbdmux(4). i plan to finish it today. i will also need to MFC all my
changes to RELENG_6. i'm not sure how much testing we want before MFC.
should i get a blanket approval from re@?

thanks,
max



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