Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:12:29 -0800 From: Matt Olander <matt@iXsystems.com> To: "Devon H. O'Dell" <devon.odell@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New logo on web page progress? Message-ID: <20060115131229.A34740@knight.iXsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab217670601151252g617a0088t@mail.gmail.com>; from devon.odell@gmail.com on Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:52:43PM -0800 References: <200601142318.k0ENISYs043627@smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl> <20060115142303.138aed5a@localhost> <1137338164.3790.15.camel@localhost> <20060115164206.7f0b8225@localhost> <1137339872.3790.17.camel@localhost> <20060115181002.026aff64@localhost> <1137345133.3790.39.camel@localhost> <20060115182604.42808110@localhost> <20060115173327.GB1286@gothic.blackend.org> <9ab217670601151252g617a0088t@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:52:43PM -0800, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > > > 3. Most important, you can't expect the user to change his browser > > > window (or anything else on his system) just to read your site. > > > > > > What if my resolution would be 800x600 or even lower? > > > > > > > It has been discussed many times, Fabian is right: there is a problem. > > We are still waiting for a decent solution. > > > > Marc > > The problem is that there's no solution. Using percentage based fonts > is a _huge_ pain for people who don't override their browser font > settings, especially when these are sizing them to a sub-100% font, > making things unreadable. If you use fixed-size fonts, the issue stays > that the people who do set their font sizes higher get pissy because > your font is smaller. It's a lose-lose situation. > > The number of people who use 800x600 combined with the number of > people who change the minimum default font size of the browser are > fewer than the people at 1024x768 and up with normal browser settings. > Do we cater to everybody? Do we piss some people off? I don't know. > This is why it's usually a good idea to just _do_ the work and let > things get fixed later. Most people won't notice it, and if they do, > hopefully they'll be helpful enough to come up with a solution > themselves. > > This is why we transitioned the site without too much > pre-site-transition hubbub. Had that been brought up, people'd have > shot it down immediately. (And there were a number of PRs that came in > afterwards from people who tried anyway.) > > My point is that we're a big project with a very diverse, technical > user base of people who all think that the way they do things is the > right way. The solution, in my opinion, is to pick one, go with it, > and pick up the pieces later. If your toes get stepped on, deal with > it. You have to pay more taxes than you would like to as well. >From the FreeBSD marketing team's perspective, we would like to see the logo go up as soon as possible. You can never please all the people all of the time, but if we could begin the logo branding process with the majority of new visitors to the site, this would be a great start. Thanks, -matt -- Matt Olander CTO, iXsystems - Servers for Open Source http://www.iXsystems.com Public Relations, The FreeBSD Project http://www.FreeBSD.org (408)943-4100 Phone (408)943-4101 Fax -- "Those who don't read have no advantage over those who can't" -Mark Twain
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