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Date:      Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:43:23 -0400
From:      Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>
To:        "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
Cc:        keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <20020910184323.14d0a796.yid@softhome.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020910135549.W35938-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>
References:  <20020910152817.7ceb1917.yid@softhome.net> <20020910135549.W35938-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
"Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> wrote:

> > > ROFL.  You think Kantian ethics are objective?  BTW, please
> >
> > Kantian ethics are objective, I don't happen to like a few of the
> > conclusions it reaches, but they are objective, without placing a
> 
> Kant's whole philosophy was infected with subjectivism.

In what way?

> > Funny, you being a Protestant, I thought you would like Kant.
> 
> What, you think Kant was a Christian?

No, but his point of view is very much old-school Protestant. Keep in mind that his parents were 18th century German Pietists.

> What makes you think that?  I like the fact that he started asking
> the right kinds of questions, given his work on transcendental
> arguments, but the problem with Kant is that he still started with
> man as his starting point, which is the source of the subjectivism
> in his philosophy.

No, with Kant, man was his *ending* point, not his starting point.

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