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Date:      Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:18:45 -0400
From:      Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>
To:        Drew Raines <drew-dated-1032126947.90fe3e@rain3s.net>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <20020911071845.43665d57.yid@softhome.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020910215545.GI4470@drew.rain3s.net>
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:55:45 -0500
Drew Raines <drew-dated-1032126947.90fe3e@rain3s.net> wrote:

> Joshua Lee wrote:
> > "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> wrote:
> > > It's called "justice."  The eternal punishment of sinners
> > > certainly does serve God's purposes.
> > 
> > I don't think I've done anything lately deserving of eternal
> > punishment, if I did one would think the cops would have
> > found out by now. ;-)
> 
> The writer to the Hebrews wrote, ``without faith it is
> impossible to please Him'' (11:6).  Not ``pleasing'' God is
> most definitely sin, so whatever you do out of faith is sin.
> 
> Romans 3:23 all over again.  We all live our lives deserving
> eternal punishment.  This is the reason we worship Christ, our
> savior.

I'm Jewish, so quotations from the NT aren't particularly convincing to me. You'll have to convince me with reason, which I doubt can be mustered to defend this idea of eternal-torture-by-god.

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