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Date:      Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:38:33 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
Cc:        Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>, arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recent face to face threads talks. 
Message-ID:  <199912130138.RAA04644@mass.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:43:36 PST." <Pine.BSF.4.10.9912121637510.26823-100000@current1.whistle.com> 

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> > During the proceedings, it became very clear that only a small number of 
> > attendees have taken the time to perform any substantial research on the 
> > topic.  None of the ideas being discussed are new; they've all been 
> > looked at many, many years ago.  If we're going to maintain our 
> > reputation for careful implementation of time-tested ideas and 
> > techniques, we need to avail ourselves of the work of others, and that 
> > means hunting down and reading the large volume of research output on the 
> > topic.
> 
> The discussion was not so much a description of all that has been done
> in the past but a discussion of some of the ideas that we have already
> narrowed down to given that we want to implement it in something vaguely
> related to the current system. I think a lot of the discussion was
> from the perspective of: "What can we implement in  arealistic time
> scale".

It wasn't so much that; a lot of it was "how about this way" followed by 
"that's a 12-year-old idea and it doesn't work".  That's time wasted that 
we don't have, hence the comment.

> > I know that Terry has a reading list, and I'm sure that others do as 
> > well.  I think it'd be to our great advantage to have these lists 
> > distributed as well as a central repository of papers and references 
> > created so that we pull ourselves past the discussing of half-baked ideas 
> > and avoid several years worth of wheel reinvention.
> 
> We've already published a list of threading related papers on this mailing
> list but I am sure we can do it again.

Just posting the list isn't enough; we need a central repository that we 
can post this stuff on.

-- 
\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com






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