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Date:      Fri, 7 Jun 2002 14:33:08 -0700
From:      David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>
To:        Alain Fauconnet <alain@cscoms.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Numerous hard hangs on TWO different ASUS P4T-E w/P4 1.6G
Message-ID:  <20020607143308.A1030@HAL9000.wox.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020607180239.C5061@cscoms.net>; from alain@cscoms.net on Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 06:02:39PM %2B0700
References:  <20020607180239.C5061@cscoms.net>

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Thus spake Alain Fauconnet <alain@cscoms.net>:
> I am experiencing numerous hard hangs on a fairly busy FreeBSD 4.5 box
> (IMP  web  mail  server with a lot of users). Sometimes 4 times in one
> hour.  Reset  button  is  the  only  solution,  no  Ctrl-Alt-Del,   no
> Ctrl-Alt-Esc  (DDB  is  compiled  in  the kernel and "usually" works).
> 
> This  box  has been fairly stable for a couple of months of production
> mode,  although it did experience a shorter series of similar hangs (2
> or 3) a few of weeks ago. I have switched the  disk  to  a  completely
> similar box (same m/b, configuration...) and it also hangs, so I  have
> more or less ruled out a hardware failure  (unless  the  disk  is  the
> culprit?).

Don't rule out hardware problems until you've tried a different model
motherboard.  Some old ASUS boards have a problem where, under intense
memory load, the voltage drops below the signalling threshhold and the
box locks up as you've described.  (ASUS won't readily admit to this
or any of the other bugs in their boards, but ask them why they did
the third revision to the P2B-F.)  That's just an example, but the
point is that both of your P4T-Es could have the same bug.

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