Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:46:51 +0200 From: Yonatan Bokovza <Yonatan@xpert.com> To: 'Greg Lehey' <grog@FreeBSD.org>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Yonatan Bokovza <Yonatan@xpert.com>, Stephen McKay <mckay@thehub.com.au>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping vi ctims of terror))) Message-ID: <EB513E68D3F5D41191CA000255588101B43532@mailserv.xpert.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lehey [mailto:grog@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 05:48 > To: Brett Glass > Cc: Yonatan Bokovza; Stephen McKay; chat@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was > Re: helping vi ctims of terror))) > > > On Sunday, 28 October 2001 at 8:43:31 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > > At 03:30 AM 10/28/2001, Yonatan Bokovza wrote: > > > >> In the democracies *I'm* aware of there's something called "war". > >> A good example of this will be when a one country shoots at > >> other country's civilians. > > > > No. In war, one country shoots at another's SOLDIERS. In a civilized > > world, it is considered an atrocity to attack civilians. Which is > > what terrorists do. > > Precisely. Now tell me, who are the Israelis shooting in Palestine? > > I think I should point out that I'm targetting the Israelis here > because they should know better, and that answering violence with more > violence doesn't work. In fact, I'm more sympathetic to the Israaeli Ahhh. No. If we step back from the current debate, militant force was always used to either occupy land or retain Status-Quo. Just take a quick breeze through the history and learn from the Romans, from the Spanish- Mayan war, or the assumption that Hadn't Hitler started a second front in Russia he could've ruled the world. It doesn't solve everything, and it's not a very good permanent solution for almost anything, but the Palestinians (if we get back to our discussion) gained a lot of political benefit via violence (plus wise use of media, but that's another thing). > cause than I am to the Palestinian cause. I know that the > Palestinians started it. But this isn't the way to get people to stop > if they're prepared to die for their cause. Israel is open to suggestions. I'm not being cynic! Since the peace talks failed, I see no way out of the situation we're in, but escalating force. The sad fact is that the Palestinians have more to gain if they continue their terror, and until that changes, they have no reason to negotiate cease-fire. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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