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Date:      Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:44:00 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        core@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: wfd block major number reassignment from 24 to 1 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.980213154137.23295H-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <3663.887412097@critter.freebsd.dk>

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having spent a long time thinking about this I must say that phk
reflects my position on this exactly..
BTW who added 'core' to the CC? that's probably redundant.

On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> In message <199802132319.PAA05082@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes:
> >> I belive that persistence in DEVFS is a BAD thing, but I'm appearantly
> >> pretty alone on -core with this view...
> >
> >Have you ever wanted to change permissions on an entry in /dev?
> 
> yes.
> 
> In which case I always add it to /etc/rc.local so I'm sure it will
> be there on the next reboot.
> 
> I also generally make it a wildcard thing so I do it for all the
> disks/ttys or whatever I want to do it to.
> 
> >If not, then your stance is understandable.  But as soon as you accept 
> >that there may be more than one "right" set of permissions for 
> >something, you accept that persistence is required.
> 
> Yes I have, and no I do not accept that.
> 
> If I decide that disks should be "642 foo.mumble" on my machine,
> I should be able to express that such that when I add more disks
> it will DTRT.
> 
> Permissions in /dev is a policy issue, and should be handled as
> such: ie, from a root-controlled config file.
> 
> I belive persistence in devfs (as in /dev) is a very bad thing.
> 
> --
> Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
> "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!"
> 


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