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Date:      Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:56:06 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Kenjiro Cho <kjc@csl.sony.co.jp>
Cc:        NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa <y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp>, Nathan Dorfman <nathan@rtfm.net>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PAO Integration? 
Message-ID:  <199812110856.AAA00831@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:55:32 %2B0900." <199812110755.QAA10039@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> 

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>   > Second, PAO enhanced irq-pool, dynamic irq-pool. So, pccardd get
>   > free-irq from kernel.
> 
> >> This is an example of an unacceptable solution rerettably typical to 
> >> the PAO project - you folks are *too*narrowly*focussed* on your needs.
> 
> It seems to me that the two parties don't communicate well.

I'd have to agree with that; there are important points about direction 
that certainly haven't been communicated adequately. 

> The new-bus people talk from the view of the entire architecture, but
> the focus of the PAO people is how to face the reality *NOW*.

If that was all they were doing, that'd be ideal.  The real problems 
arising at the moment however stem from the PAO team laying plans for 
long-term development without considering the directions that other 
groups are taking.

> The two parties should respect differences in their positions.
> I for one feel that both efforts are very important for laptop users.

I think this is a sentiment that we all share; I'm not entirely sure 
how to go about improving the situation so that the PAO folks can 
concentrate on finding and fixing specific issues while remaining 
inside the ongoing development framework.  We had hoped that making 
Tatsumi a committer would provide a means for the groups to come 
together, but this hasn't happened.

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\\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
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