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Date:      Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:08:40 +0900
From:      Sangwoo Shim <sangwoos@gmail.com>
To:        Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Oleg Petrov <dsacode@yandex.ru>
Subject:   Re: nvi for serious hacking
Message-ID:  <4cbd01f40510171008x42b4738bi@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051017144920.GA597@gothic.blackend.org>
References:  <4352D860.000002.03681@tide.yandex.ru> <20051017144920.GA597@gothic.blackend.org>

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2005/10/17, Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org>:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote:
> > Hello, FreeBSD people.
> >
> > First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was u=
sing it
> > for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfo=
rtable
> > with it for some reasons: first, i use many different systems and emacs=
 isn't
> > default application for FreeBSD or any other *BSD\Linux distribution. S=
econd,
> > remote machines aren't powerful enough to start Emacs fast. I tried man=
y small
> > Emacs clones like jed, joe, uemacs and several others i just can't reme=
mber.
> > But for different reasons i disliked all of them. Later I noticed defau=
lt
> > `nvi' editor, that has some nice features: it comes with FreeBSD by def=
ault
> > and according to documentation it has powerful editing mechanism.
> >
> > So, my question goes to all FreeBSD hackers who uses `nvi' as their gen=
eral
> > editor. Is it possible to do serious hacking with it? More accurate:
> >
>
> I'd say "s/nvi/vim" (see http://www.vim.org/) if you want to really do
> everything with your Vi.

Actually the first thing that I do after minimal installing of new system i=
s
to install vim from the ports tree. (in fact, installing cvsup, of course :=
-)
I remember once upon a time someone (david?) made a suggestion that nvi in
our tree should be changed to vim-lite(or something.) I'm tend to agree
with that.. (Although vim is GPL'd, nvi is in the src/contrib anyway..)

Regards,
Sangwoo Shim

>
> Marc
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