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Date:      Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:25:35 -0600
From:      Tim Tsai <tim@futuresouth.com>
To:        David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: GPS for xntpd Stratum 1 servers
Message-ID:  <19980108232535.39313@futuresouth.com>
In-Reply-To: <199801090340.VAA13302@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 09:40:48PM -0600
References:  <michaelh@cet.co.jp> <199801090340.VAA13302@nospam.hiwaay.net>

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> > On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, David Kelly wrote:
> > > If you are on the 15th floor of a 30 floor building then you are going 
> > > to have troubles with the GPS in any case. Any view out the window will 
> > > have less than half the sky visible. Sometimes there may not be enough 
> > > satelites visible for a lock.
> > 
> > Yeah, Mike Smith suggested RS-232 <==> Fiber <==> RS-232 to the roof, but
> > unfortunately doing that costs an arm and a leg in this concrete jungle.
> > Er, maybe just a leg these days.

  You only need three satellites to get a 2D position.  I believe 1
satellite in view is all that is necessary to get the time.  That is very
practical nowadays [in Mississippi we easily get 8-10 satellites in clear
view] even if you only have a clear view of the sky on one side of the
building.  If you can extend a small pole (say 3 feet) out the window
then it would be more than enough.  I've stuck GPS antenna mounted on a
broom stick out of hotel windows enough times to know this works.  :-)

> So whatcha do is take that old 386sx16 and put it on ethernet, up on the
> roof with the GPS, and let it be the timeserver.

  It'd be easier to use a couple of RS232<->RS422/RS485 converters.  At
the typical GPS baud rate (4800/9600 baud) you should be able to run the
wire hundreds of meters if not more (RS422 spec escapes me at the moment).
The converters run for about $30-$100 a piece.

  Tim



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