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Date:      Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500
From:      "Jean-Paul Natola" <jnatola@familycareintl.org>
To:        "Sean Cavanaugh" <millenia2000@hotmail.com>, <jerrymc@msu.edu>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: desktop app/config
Message-ID:  <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E417F@www.fcimail.org>
In-Reply-To: <BAY126-W4837739815772A6310FC6ECAB20@phx.gbl>

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That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login =
with no
user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is =
going
to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the =
printers so
somewhere somehow I need a login no?


-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000@hotmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerrymc@msu.edu
Cc: questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: desktop app/config


> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500
> From: jnatola@familycareintl.org
> To: jerrymc@msu.edu
> CC: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: desktop app/config
>=20
> I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is =
a
> FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to =
setup
> some "recycled" machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a =
user to
> grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-
>=20
> But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing=20


I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline =
install
with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is =
more
MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of =
them
to look like MSWindows.

setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to =
log in
with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or =
KDM
(depending on which you want to use).

Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per =
your
needs.

-Sean








> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu]=20
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
> To: Jean-Paul Natola
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: desktop app/config
>=20
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
>=20
> > Hi all,
> >=20
> > I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the
library
> > running FreeBSD-=20
> >=20
> > What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what =
config
do
> I
> > need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will =
automatically
> > launch the desktop gui
>=20
> The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest
FreeBSD
> (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or =
RELENG_7_1
> so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will =
have
> graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
> Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, =
although
> you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
> from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
> for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
> and maybe a couple of games for fun.
>=20
> Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the =
system.=20
> and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in
> the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, the
> more they make sense.
>=20
> One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many
> other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent,
ubiquitious
> one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
> are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
> but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty
> good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:=20
>=20
> http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
>=20
> There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.
>=20
> "FreeBSD Unleashed" and "Absolute BSD" are a couple of them
> The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
> is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
> The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.
>=20
> At first, it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command
> oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful way
> to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning.
>=20
> Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common
> complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times.
> The usual response is "Thank God" or something similar. Anyway, they
> are not interested in hearing whines again. But, if you have a real
> question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way'
> and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good about
> giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people=20
> learn, but not interested in people complaining.=20
>=20
> If it is a bug, post a pr. If it is a feature request, remember that=20
> FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - =
but=20
> they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very =

> long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself=20
> and then submit it as an improvement before then.
>=20
> Good luck and have fun.
>=20
> ////jerry=20
>=20
> >=20
> > thanx
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