Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:38:37 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> To: Rod Person <rodperson@rodperson.com> Cc: jhell <jhell@DataIX.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20100820000153.H45487@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20100819133347.DD671B822@www6.pairlite.com> References: <20100819110427.A6A3B10656F7@hub.freebsd.org> <20100819220048.N45487@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20100819133347.DD671B822@www6.pairlite.com>
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Rod Person wrote: > At 08:31 AM 08/19/2010, Ian Smith wrote: > > > Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying. > > > > Indeed. That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers > > to postmaster@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a > > fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :) > > Can some explain to me or know what criteria is used to determine when a > posting to the lists need moderation? > I have read post in the past that say the list is not moderated or comments > such as above. I was really hoping not to start a bikeshed discussion :( This is a spam / mail abuse issue, not one about content, and yes it's off-topic but needs dealing with. This list is not moderated and is open to posting by non-subscribers; it's been that way for a very long time, and arguing for moderation won't change anything - who would have the time, anyway? Some other freebsd lists are only open to posting by subscribers. > But, then I try to post something and I get a "you posting is awaiting > moderator approval". There are some automatic checks; you can get that by cross-posting to too many lists (more than two or three IIRC); sending to too many recipients; posting to a list requiring subscription, maybe others. > Then I get a email that my posting was rejected with comments that > state "I don't see what this has to do with FreeBSD". But, then we > have these junk mail and forged mail issues, not to mention I see > replies that go way off topic of FreeBSD. Some list subscribers sometimes (try to) help by mailing people off-list about perceived off-topicness etc. There's nobody here but us chickens. The postmaster (and assistants), on the other hand, is/are the only ones who can do anything about blocking spammers and other abusers posting to freebsd lists, and that's generally best all dealt with off-list. postmaster@ removed from ccs; this won't help him locate the problem. cheers, Ian (over and out on this topic)
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