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Date:      Fri,  8 Jan 1999 15:02:18 -0500 (EST)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: horrible hack / SRM console
Message-ID:  <13974.25363.167762.913345@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990108105817.12481E-100000@pike.cdrom.com>
References:  <199901081854.NAA01951@shell1.cybercom.net> <Pine.BSF.3.96.990108105817.12481E-100000@pike.cdrom.com>

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Murray Stokely writes:
 > On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Robert Huff wrote:
 > % >  This is a perennial problem. At some point *BSD is going to have
 > % >  to consider how to work under ARC or AlphaBIOS.
 > % 
 > % 	Last I heard this had been considered and rejected, based on:
 > % 
 > % 	1) the lack of difficulty in obtaining a SRM-using board, or
 > % installing it afterward.
 > 
 >   Thats bogus because of the large number of DEC systems such as XL's
 > and SX boards that ONLY ship with AlphaBIOS and can not under any
 > circumstances be upgraded to SRM.  Right now owners of any of the
 > lower end Alpha workstations from the last few years are completely
 > alienated with FreeBSD.  

And this is going to become a much bigger issue once all the 164lx
boards sell out, as vendors are claiming they will.  Samsung's 164lx
replacement, the 164ux, apparently works only with AlphaBios.  From
what I've read, DEC's new low-end 164RX board will lack SRM support as
well.

Drew

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