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Date:      Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:09:13 -0800 (PST)
From:      alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu
To:        Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org>
Cc:        alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. 
Message-ID:  <199901010109.RAA12860@hub.freebsd.org>

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In Reply to Your Message of Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19: 33:48 EST
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:50:08 -0500
From: Jerry Alexandratos <alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu>
Message-ID:  <199812311950.aa00435@mail.eecis.udel.edu>

Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org> says:
: On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu wrote:
: > 
: > Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on putting either gcc28
: > or egcs in the tree.  8)
: 
: You neglect to understand how "we" works. For certain things, implementing
: something as a team works: when you have a large project and a clear
: direction stated. Things will intercorrelate correctly. But on a small projec
t,
: such as a port (or merge) usually is, a single person with many testers who
: bash on <insert product here> is best. Testing things is what takes many
: people, developing a finely-grained project is something for a single person.

Actually, please notice the smiley.  I was trying (miserably) to make a
funny about in reference to the slw of e-mails that flew around for what
to do about a toolchain and compiler (specifically in reference to the
sparc64-elf port).

As Dennis Miller once said, "stop me before I sub-reference again."

However, that discussion brought out lots of good points.  Things like
not using egcs because it's still relatively beta software and a "moving
target."

So once again, I ask my original question (which hasn't been answered
yet), why not make postfix a port?  All of the benefits that it provides
vs sendmail have been done previously in other mailers and those mailers
are in the ports tree.  Likewise, postfix falls under every reason (from
a development/code stage POV) that I can recall over the past 4 years
for not putting something into the main source tree but rather making it
a port.

Anyway, like anything and everything else, this is not worth taking
personally and getting into a tizzy.  I never meant to start a "features
war" and apologize since this is what my question turned into.

Everyone, have a Happy New Year and I'll see you all in 1999!

       --Jerry

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8) alexandr@louie.udel.edu     % - %    thoughts, and oblivion (8
8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu   % - %    drives my desires."    (8

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