Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:14:23 +0200 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@FreeBSD.org> To: Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com> Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@FreeBSD.org>, Terje Elde <terje@elde.net>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joachim_Str=F6mbergson?= <watchman@ludd.luth.se>, Greg Lewis <glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Status of FreeBSD security work? Audit, regression and crypto swap? Message-ID: <20000725081423.Q62551@ywing.creative.net.au> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007241937560.6271-100000@achilles.silby.com>; from silby@silby.com on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 07:40:09PM -0500 References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007241608300.20680-100000@freefall.freebsd.org> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007241937560.6271-100000@achilles.silby.com>
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2000, Mike Silbersack wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Mike Silbersack wrote: > > > > > Encrypting at that low of a level wouldn't be very useful in the long > > > run. For an encrypted filesystem to be truly useful, each user's files > > > are encrypted with their own key. A partition-wide encryption doesn't > > > protect anything if you get root hacked on your box. > > > > Except this breaks the Unix filesystem semantic that you can read other > > people's files (if they have to provide their key manually and it is not > > pre-available), which is probably necessary for system operation. Unless > > all of the keys were available in the kernel without user intervention and > > stored persistently (perhaps encrypted by a master key), which sort of > > defeats the purpose unless you have somewhere "better" to store the key > > table than on disk. > > > > Kris > > Sorry, I should've mentioned that the encryption would be on a per-file > basis. For example, I'd encrypt ~silby/personal and leave everything else > untouched. This is how TCFS/CFS works, if I understand correctly. Ok. Someone is going to have to make stacking layers finally work. ;-) Adrian -- Adrian Chadd Now 17-year-olds can't play a _video game_ <adrian@FreeBSD.org> because its called violent - and real violence is still called dinner. -- jamie@mccarthy.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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