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Date:      Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:54:21 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
To:        Michael Robinson <robinson@netrinsics.com>
Cc:        nate@yogotech.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: State of Server-Side Java
Message-ID:  <200008181654.KAA28170@nomad.yogotech.com>
In-Reply-To: <200008180929.RAA51600@netrinsics.com>
References:  <200008180640.AAA25895@nomad.yogotech.com> <200008180929.RAA51600@netrinsics.com>

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> >> This may go without saying, but it's probably a good idea to do as much 
> >> as possible with typescript running.  For posterity.
> >
> >Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests work or my
> >results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works due to licensing, I'm
> >not sure why...
> 
> I envision a sequence of events that goes something like this:
> 
>     1.  Figure out how to get test t[n] to work.
>     2.  Test t[n] fails.
>     3.  Repeat steps 1, 2 for t[n], t[m], t[o] ...
>     4.  Identify bug causing failure of t[n], t[m], t[o] ...
>     5.  Some time later, Greg fixes bug.

Or someone else.  You know, I'm capable of fixing bugs as well. :) :)

> Now, my guess is, with multiple thousands of tests, at this point, you'll
> either a) repeat step 1, or b) consult your typescripts.  Of course, there
> are better forms of documentation than typescripts, but none as painless. 
> 
>     6.  Test n passes.
>     7.  Some time later, Greg adds, e.g., native kernel threads.
> 
> Now, at this point it would be really nice to have a bunch of shell scripts
> that run the whole suite automatically (sort of like "make world"), so that
> every time someone touches something, you don't have to start at step 1 
> again.

It would be nice, but as I understand things, many/most of the tests are
interactive, hence the nightmare in setting things up to run.  All the
environment must be setup exactly right, etc...





Nate


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