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Date:      Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:13:56 -0700
From:      "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To:        "G. Adam Stanislav" <zen@buddhist.com>, <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Shut up and show them the code
Message-ID:  <000001bec4c7$6a0597c0$021d85d1@youwant.to>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990702115124.0099b480@mail.bfm.org>

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	Sounds to me like he's simply advocating intellectual dishonesty.

	The thrust of his article is that RMS's rhetoric sounds communistic to
people, so even if you agree with him, you shouldn't talk about it. You
should instead pretend that you don't agree. That way you'll bring more
people into the Open Source movement.

	This same sort of dishonesty is what disgusted me in the Libertarian
movement. Advocates of absolute property rights instead claimed that they
believed that "force and fraud are wrong". A tactical decision, allgedly.
But, of course, "force and fraud" are incomprehensible without property
rights.	I eat a banana, is that force? Yes if it's your banana.

	If you agree with RMS's principles, then you can find your own way of
expressing it. But an attempt to hide it by not talking about principles is
worse than nothing.

	DS

> Just discovered Eric Raymond's new article where he sums up nicely what's
> wrong with RMS rhetoric:
>
> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/shut-up-and-show-them.html
>
> Adam
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