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Date:      Thu, 25 May 2000 21:57:04 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org>
To:        Donald and Rosalyn Fast <d_rfast@telus.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Widespread panics on install of 4.0
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005252135370.73231-100000@web2.sea.nwserv.com>
In-Reply-To: <000601bfc6c5$ccbf2880$9232e8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net>

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On Thu, 25 May 2000, Donald and Rosalyn Fast wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I hope someone can point out a way to install v4 on my machine. 
> 2 (distant) choice) hardware replacement suggestions.
> 
> I have set of v3.1 CDs (which came with a recently purchased Complete FreeBSD 2nd ed).
> This version will install properly and work.  

Is this on the same hardware?

> When attempting to install ( with msdos, ftp or CD-ROM) v4.0 various panic situations 
> arise.  All install methods will configure (both with and without an initial kernel config)
> and start the installation (of # 9  X-User ).  At various points during the install the
> system panics and FreeBSD is then not bootable.  try again (or boot into windows, search
> and reread information on the web).
> 
> Is there anything that needs to be changed for AMD K6(2)-400?
> 
> panic: page fault
> syncing disks ... 471 [repeated 20 times]
> giving up on 246 buffers
> uptime: 10m47s
> 
> MSDOS (4-20000520-stable, also tried 4.0-RELEASE)
> from c:\freeBSD folder
> panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc
> syncing disks 188 162 12 1 1 1 1 1 1 (total of 17 x 1)
> uptime: 6m54s
> 

Whoa, this is deja-vu. I built my own system.
First I started with a K6/2-350, but the thing kept having problems.
I replaced the motherboard, thought it was bad, still had panics. Then the
sales guy noticed that I was running the bus speed at 95Mhz (which the
K6 manual says to). He thought that was the cause of the problem since he
had reports from 'those in the know' that the chip couldn't actually
handle that speed. So I clocked it at 66MHz, still had problems.

Finally I got fed up with that chip and bought a K6/2-450 (1 month
later it was only $20 more). This chip was
supposed to be better. But, still, panic problems. Now this computer guy
was somewhat informed, but he wasn't an EE. He did not use thermal puddy
between the chip and the fan. So I figure that the chip may be thermally
challenged. Then I got some help from this list (can't remember who) who
said that their K6 was frequency challenged, and clocked their 450 down
to 300MHz and then it worked 100%.

I decided to try it in stages, so I clocked mine down to 400MHz. It
worked! The chip stabalized. Now, I did not take the time to verify if it
was thermal and/or frequency problems--I didn't care as long as I could
get it to work.

> Donald Fast
> a not-yet-successful user of FreeBSD

So, short of getting a real pentium chip, lower the clock on your K6, make
sure there is thermal compound between the fan and the cpu  and
give it a whirl. Hopefully this make you a successful FreeBSD user.

>        Processor Type: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor  

For grins, I renamed my computer eeyore. Now I always remember that its a
little slow.

Good luck

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