Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:01:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On the need for moderated questions lists Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905291251260.10254@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <87bppci91h.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <6C96EEF057EDE24197FECB0D1EA035044A8F6EB461@h1341255.aoemedia.de> <744a9119476160472a319bbc9f4fd799.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905271756370.52750@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <065001c9def1$54ae3f40$fe0abdc0$@za.org> <20090527124014.6998139c@gom> <20090527203000.GA1328@fusion.opticnetworks.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905272235240.54915@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <b79ecaef0905271420v354a9e5ct6c0b77ed310b1217@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905280002440.55278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDCC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905280044120.55698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4A1EF89C.9040505@isafeelin.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905282258030.62803@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <87prdsr5ep.fsf_-_@kobe.laptop> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905290924030.5233@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <87r5y8cprs.fsf@kobe.laptop> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905290954350.5488@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <87bppci91h.fsf@kobe.laptop>
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> > Because we already _have_ a list `for general FreeBSD questions', and it > is open. Adding even more lists to the mix will --at least initially-- > only serve as a source of mild confusion. Imagine you are a new FreeBSD > user. Try to imagine it now. i see the webpage, the mailing lists, and ftp with installs and documentation. webpage - clear, understandable, read and understood documentation - simply excellent, nothing else to say. unmoderated mailing lists - total off-topic mess, is it really FreeBSD support? or maybe it's a chat. moderated mailing list - not very much here, but at least about FreeBSD. for sure i will ask here if i will need help with FreeBSD. Of course after reading documentation and trying to learn myself. Lets compare it to many other people with "different" and more common expectations. What he/she thinks: webpage - quite not trendy, so little graphics, anyway clear i go forward documentation - what it is? some technical info for programmers i think. but why they put it here? OK lets skip this. ftp with install - OK finally something ! and he/she booted the CD/DVD and by just clicking OK installed FreeBSD by accident. And then don't know what's up. So he/she needs help and see: moderated mailing list - hmm.. looks somehow too technical, i don't understand anything. unmoderated mailing lists - EXCELLENT, they even tell my how to install KDE! Then he/she installs KDE, is proud about having such "professional unix system" on his/her computer. After few months and lots of questions on mailing list he/she still doesn't understand at all what's happening on the computer. Proudness already faded and he/she installs windows back. In windows he/she too - don't understand what's going on, but at least it's clear way how to install programs (just click), and he/she THINKS she understand something. At the end - ALL ARE HAPPY.
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