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Date:      Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:09:27 +0400 (AMT)
From:      "Edgar V.S. Der-Danieliantz" <edd@aic.net>
To:        gfoster@gfoster.com (Glen Foster)
Cc:        coventry@io.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: feature list
Message-ID:  <199606051409.SAA16511@aic.net>
In-Reply-To: <199606051254.IAA00308@ptavv.nsta.org> from "Glen Foster" at Jun 5, 96 08:54:46 am

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> I have about six years of experience with Sparcs (SunOs and Solaris)
> and aboiut four with Unix on Intel (SCO, UnixWare, Solaris, FreeBSD,
> BSD/OS, and others).  I am not an ISP but I do Unix consulting for
> several ISPs in the Washington DC area and their customers.  These
> ISPs typically use BSD/OS, Solaris, and FreeBSD in about that order of
> popularity.  The ones who are using FreeBSD have the fewest recurring
> problems and spend the least amount of time fussing with their
> internal systems, Solaris is the worst of the three for reliability. 

wow. Will you be so kind to tell me why solaris is the worst? To my
knowledge and experience, solaris one of the most reliable unixes around, IMHO.
We're using sco4.2, solaris2.5, and freebsd2.1, and the worst for everything is
sco. we had no problems with freebsd neither with solaris....

> 
> WRT the specific applications you list below, both OS's run them fine
> and they all build "out of the box."  However, Solaris is wedded to
> NIS.  If you choose not to run NIS, once in a while a host lookup
> non-event will catch you by surprise (e.g. a `who` will not return a
> hostname but an IP address instead).  Nothing fatal but it can be

if you've configured it correctly, it'll act as necessary :-)

> annoying.  Also, Solaris is not as complete as FreeBSD (e.g. FreeBSD
> allows you to see what each sendmail process is doing when you run the
> ps(1) command, Solaris doesn't).  FreeBSD is significantly less memory

oh ma god. Please don't forget: Solaris is SVR4, FreeBSD is 4.4BSD...

> hungry and faster on the same hardware.  This is especially noticeable
> in X windows.  OTOH, there are lots of commercial apps for Solaris and
> very few for FreeBSD.

and lots of free apps for Solaris :)!

> 
> One other factor that may be of importance, the FreeBSD core team has
> made it easy to have all upgrades and patches be applied to your
> system over the net (see the CTM and sup docs).  This is in stark
> contrast to Sun whose OS patch system is painful.

maybe it was painful with 1.1, 2.3 and 2.4. 
starting from 2.5 it is relatively easy...

> 
> WRT installation, I have done both over-the-net and cdrom installs.
> Both work fine but I prefer the cdrom especially on a slow net
> connection.  If I was installing on a system without a cdrom, I would
> use the net rather than install a cdrom drive, it is really easy and
> almost bullet-proof.  Buy the cdrom, you will sleep better at nights
> knowing that you can reinstall part or all of your system without
> needing net resources.
>

agreed :) 

-edd




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