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Date:      Mon, 22 Sep 1997 01:06:38 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
To:        Mark Mayo <mark@quickweb.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: My monitor's got the Shakes...
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970922010427.24355Z-100000@Journey2.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <19970922000212.52880@vinyl.quickweb.com>

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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Mark Mayo wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 21, 1997 at 11:40:39PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Sep 1997, Mark Mayo wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all... well a bad couple of weeks on my hardware seems to be 
> > > getting worse. Suddently, my monitor is "shaking". Basically, every
> > > 10 minutes or so (not regular) a small, rapid shaking happens. A
> > > slight brightness fade-in, fade-out sort of happens at the same time.
> > > The picture would appear to be moving straight up and down (by a 
> > > really small amount, but enough to be REALLY damned annoying).
> > > 
> > > Any idea what the cause could be??
> > > 
> > > This monitor has already developed a pretty serious case of ghosting,
> > > so I fear that this fit of shaking is my signal that "she's gonna blow!".
> > > 
> > > It's a 17" MAG, about 3.5 years old I believe. Been a faithful monitor,
> > > but it's been going downhill at a break-neck speed the last 6 monhts or
> > > so.
> > 
> > Oh, lovely.  I'm reading this on a 3.5 year old 17" MAG.
> 
> What model?

I have two, of nearly the same vintage, DX-17F I think.  It's really
inconvenient to turn it upside down and search out the exact model number.
One has the little LCD readout (the older one) and one hasn't.

I wish they hadn't stopped making the LCD readout, it's been very
convenient to have instant verification of the mode.

> 
> > 
> > It sounds like arcing somewhere in the HV section.  Can you literally hear
> > it?
> 
> Hmmm. I haven't really heard anything, but when you mentioned it I put
> my ear on the side of the thing -- all I heard was a slight buzz sound,
> and an occasional crackle, which sounded a lot like a static discharge.
> There doesn't seem to be a connection with the "shake/jitter" and the
> sound inside the monitor though.
> 
> > As the capacitors get older, sometimes they go bad.  If you're lucky,
> > that's it.  If you're not, it could be something expensive, like a
> > transformer arcing.  Affecting multiple sections also makes it sound like
> > the power.
> 
> It's very small jitter, and very rapid - I'm not imagining an 'arc'
> producing this, but I have no knowledge about how monitors work at all!
> I've been told that the ghosting I'm experiencing is a common sign of
> the capacitors getting old and bad -- if they are inexpensive then I
> certainly hope the capacitors are the problem. How much does a repair like
> that usually cost?
> 
> > 
> > One other thing to watch for ... MAGs can't stand overheating.  You don't
> > have some printouts laying on the top of the monitor, do you?
> 
> No, I keep it wide open, since I noticed long ago that the thing gets
> pretty darn hot. In fact, I've thought about opening up the ventilation
> holes a little with a drill since it really is very hot (keeps me warm
> in winter ;-)
> 
> Thanks for the tips,
> -Mark
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > TIA for any tips, like "you can fix this by .."  :-)
> > > 
> > > -mark
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  Mark Mayo		  				mark@quickweb.com       
> > >  RingZero Comp.  	  		   http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark 
> > > 
> > > 	 finger mark@quickweb.com for my PGP key and GCS code
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > "The newest book, The Dilbert Future, took a broader view, describing how 
> > > idiots will threaten every aspect of business, technology and society in
> > > the future."	--Scott Adams
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
> > Chuck Robey                 | Interests include any kind of voice or data 
> > chuckr@eng.umd.edu          | communications topic, C programming, and Unix.
> > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1  |
> > Greenbelt, MD 20770         | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD
> > (301) 220-2114              | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN!
> > ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
> 
> -- 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Mark Mayo		  				mark@quickweb.com       
>  RingZero Comp.  	  		   http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark 
> 
> 	 finger mark@quickweb.com for my PGP key and GCS code
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "The newest book, The Dilbert Future, took a broader view, describing how 
> idiots will threaten every aspect of business, technology and society in
> the future."	--Scott Adams
> 
> 

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Chuck Robey                 | Interests include any kind of voice or data 
chuckr@eng.umd.edu          | communications topic, C programming, and Unix.
213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1  |
Greenbelt, MD 20770         | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD
(301) 220-2114              | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN!
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