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Date:      Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:11:05 -0400 (EDT)
From:      David Scheidt <rufus@brain.mics.net>
To:        j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>
Cc:        Paul Robinson <paul@akita.co.uk>, Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: code density vs readability
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.4.20.0110021004400.4707-100000@brain.mics.net>
In-Reply-To: <20011002142257.C98079@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, j mckitrick wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:52:26PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:
> | a lot of code editing on live, remote servers. Don't ask. Needless to say,
> | when you have minicom up, and you're dialled into a BSD box 300 miles away
> | and you need to change that line *there* and the term settings aren't right,
> | you end up quickly re-learning ed. Very quickly. And yes, we can talk about
> 
> This is why they tell us we should all learn our way around vi because
> it is *always* there, unlike other editors, and it was *designed* for
> just this kind of environment (slow terminals, odd settings, etc).

No, vi only works if you've got a reasonable terminal.  If you're using a 
teletype, or a some sort of hardcopy terminal, or you're connected to a
terminal server who thinks all the world is some sort AT&T terminal that
you've never seen, or you're missing /etc/termcap, you're not going to be
doing well with vi.  That's why you need to know ed.  ed(1) is your friend.



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