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Date:      Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:10:16 -0700
From:      Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
To:        Ruslan Bukin <br@freebsd.org>, Andrew Turner <andrew@fubar.geek.nz>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r263424 - head/sys/arm/conf
Message-ID:  <532D2948.9050606@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20140322052957.GA23556@machdep.com>
References:  <201403201701.s2KH1L84024044@svn.freebsd.org> <20140321094316.76ccf459@bender.Home> <20140322052957.GA23556@machdep.com>

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On 03/21/14 22:29, Ruslan Bukin wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:43:16AM +0000, Andrew Turner wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:01:21 +0000 (UTC)
>> Ruslan Bukin <br@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Author: br
>>> Date: Thu Mar 20 17:01:21 2014
>>> New Revision: 263424
>>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/263424
>>>
>>> Log:
>>>    Disable debugging by default.
>> I don't like this on head. I have found a number of issues that were
>> hidden because the kernel config most people were using for development
>> had WITNESS, INVARIANTS and DIAGNOSTIC disabled.
>>
> I think arm codebase is so small, so every commit is like
> a huge evolutional update...
> Is anyone merging every commit to stable? no
> so I think arm users prefered to run -current, not stable.
> (say they need fb driver for chromebook).
>
> Developer can set debug locally any time, but users no idea
> about debugging is ON, so they get running slow system,
> and then got disappointed.
>
> -Ruslan
>
>

It's still super dangerous. For one thing, it means the debug code will 
bitrot since it is never turned on. For another, the beginning of 
/usr/src/UPDATING has a huge banner about this and what to do about it 
already.
-Nathan



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